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Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sat 17. May 2008, 22:16
by N2FQ
Hello.
I installed and imported my ADIF log into Rumlog without a problem.
Unfortunately, I move the active window to look at something on my desktop,
now I can't get to the title bar to move it back. It's stuck on the left side of my screen.
I've quit and restarted the app but no luck. I've shutdown and restarted but no luck either.
The title bar seems to be covered up with the tool bar of the Apple logo.

tnx. fernando n2fq

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 18. May 2008, 13:19
by DL2RUM
Hi Fernando,
that's crazy. But don't worry, I have the solution for you. I assume you have "lost" the main window.
  • 1. Quit RUMlog
    2. Go to your homefolder's preferences folder in '/user/YourHomeFolder/library/preferences' and locate the file 'RumLogOwn.plist'
    3. Move this file away, for example to the desktop
    4. Start RUMlog, you will be requested to create a new log. You can cancel this, since you have already a log
    5. Move the file 'RumLogOwn.plist' back to its original position into '/user/YourHomeFolder/library/preferences' (Overwrite the new created file)
    6. Quit RUMlog
    7. Start RUMlog, it should work now.
I hope this helps. Otherwise just delete the file RumLogOwn.plist and navigate to your existing logfile using the Open Log menu. But you will lost your personal settings.

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 18. May 2008, 14:26
by K6LE
Thanks Tom,

That would have fixed a problem I had with "orphan" windows with Rumlog.

I used to use two displays with my 20" iMac. When I got this new 24" I decided to try to get by with only the primary display. I wound up missing Rumlog windows! They would show up in Expose but I couldn't recover them. I deleted the .pref but when I got to the "Can't find logfile" notice I chickened out and brought back the old .pref (isn't Time Machine wonderful?).

I wound up hooking up my second display, moving the "ghost" windows back to the primary display area and solved it that way. Would have been frustrating if I didn't still have the second display! :D

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 18. May 2008, 14:35
by DL2RUM
Hi Rick,
I have had a similarly issue when using 2 displays. But this should be done in version 3.2 I locate the windows 50 pixels from the left edge of the screen when the last saved position is outside the currently used (single) screen.

Can you confirm that please?

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 18. May 2008, 14:56
by N2FQ
Hello and thanks for the quick reply.

Your listed steps corrected the problem.

Also learning a little German along the way clicking buttons. hi..

73 and tu.

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 18. May 2008, 15:14
by DL2RUM
Ups, I'm sorry for that. :o :? :o

I have forgotten to switch back to English after compiling a German version for a friend of mine. In the next update (soon) all system textes will be back in english again.

Thanks for the hint and sorry again for the inconveniences!

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sun 25. May 2008, 16:09
by K6LE
DL2RUM wrote: Can you confirm that please?
Yes, seems to be working fine now.

Thanks,

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Fri 8. Aug 2008, 21:55
by K6LE
K6LE wrote:
DL2RUM wrote: Can you confirm that please?
Yes, seems to be working fine now.

Thanks,
Well, I don't know what happened the last time but now I am running in to this again and not able to get the instructions to fix it.

I guess I had the Search screen on the outboard display before I took it off the desk. Now, everything works fine except the Search screen is not visible.

I tried both moving the RumlogOwn.plist to the desktop per the instruction and I also tried to recover it from my Time Machine backup but I still wind up with it out of view. Is there an edit I can do to either of the .pref files to avoid having to delete the other .pref file and re-entering my personal data?

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sat 9. Aug 2008, 11:05
by DL2RUM
Hi Rick,
I will have a look on the code again to see what happened. Maybe I can add an emergency routine to restore all window positions in the next update. One hint: Make sure you have quit RUMlog, before you change the plist file!
You can easily modify your 'RumLogOwn.plist' by yourself. The best way is to use the "Property List Editor" You can find this tool on the Developer Tools CD, which came with your Mac or with your OS X CD. I don't have this CD handy right now, so I do not know if you can install this tool separately. Open the RumLogOwn.plist' in the Proper List Editor and delete or modify the entry 'SearchWindow" inside the Root tree. Delete the whole dictionary "SearchWindow" or just modify the values of "top" and "left" inside the "WindowPos" dictionary. The numbers represent the window position from the left upper corner in pixel. Save your changes.
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Also you can use a simple text editor to modify the file.
Delete or modify this lines:

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<key>SearchWindow</key>
	<dict>
		<key>windowName</key>
		<string>RUMLog Search</string>
		<key>WindowPos</key>
		<dict>
			<key>left</key>
			<integer>234</integer>
			<key>top</key>
			<integer>175</integer>
			<key>width</key>
			<integer>950</integer>
			<key>height</key>
			<integer>600</integer>
		</dict>
	</dict>
Make sure, you have no empty lines and save the file.

When you don't like to do this, you can e-mail the file and I can make the changes.

Re: Rumlog 3.2 can't get to title bar to move on desktop

Posted: Sat 9. Aug 2008, 22:46
by K6LE
Once again, thanks Tom for your prompt response and kind offer.

I will refer back this thread if I get caught again but I decided I really like having two displays so I put the 20" ACD back on the desk. So, I solved the problem the easy way!

If I decide to take it down again I will try to remember to gather up any windows before I take the outboard one offline.

BTW, I found it interesting that when I put my 2nd display back up I put it on the Right side of my iMac instead of the Left where it had been. Then when I opened RUMLog and chose "Search" the window was still not in view. So, in System Preferences I had to make the system believe the monitor was on the Left, moved the Search window to the center and then put System Preferences back to the correct set up. I guess the system doesn't just put the window on the outboard display it puts it to the R or L of the main display as well.

Now that I think about it, that allows OSX to properly position windows on three displays.